-The addict clings on you like there's no tomorrow, making the codependent feel bad for any attempt of getting away. I will only complicate you. There's no other choice. Click here to upload images for this post. What's the point of a discussion board then?

It's weird, everything you've spelled out matches me, in regards to my previous relationship, and most importantly, my first love.

Tool and their powerful lyrics blown my mind ever since the first time I have ever listened to them.

So pretty much you are hopeless and helpless.

When he is performing in a stadium/center where you might see people taking a lot more pictures, that's when you see him hiding somewhere. Also, I agree that it's probably about codependency. Who cares where he stands as long as you can see him dance? i think that the NARD is a pretentious prick . I dont see why anyone would choose to dislike tool because Adam Jones doesnt head bang and Maynard doesnt spit/piss in the crowd. You crave peace of mind, but at the same time, you can't get out that loop.

Again, Maynard isn't exactly known to be a big fan of the fans that are fucking idiots, you know, the morons that mosh during Wings and throw shit at the concerts and idolize him, maybe even make little Maynard shrines and such....I don't blame him, I would have no empathy for some souless person like that either. 6. 5 words, 14 syllables ...i'm not an author and your no pade critic, sooooo fuck off? Edit: I forgot to add "Bottom", especially the spoken part: "-Henry Rollins: If I let you, you would make me destroy myself. I remember hearing (in some interview) the song was about a friend of the band who was at his artistic best when he was loaded. I'm not to justify any ego-trippin' whims by anyone. It also often involves placing a lower priority on one's own needs, while being excessively preoccupied with the needs of others. Some of these relationships can be seen as humorous or critical of some of the themes presented in a 12-step program, while others may seem supportive or non-judgemental.

I will use my mistakes against you.

Now I need to go listen to all of those again! ... Maynard is a dear friend and a great singer and writer. And yeah, abusive relationship would be a more common way of saying.

Just a month ago I realized there's an actual term - 13 stepping which is about someone preying on new members of AA/people with dependencies, using their addiction to take advantage of them. Edit: Sorry for my eventually broken English here and there, English is not my first language and I'm also very tired at this time. Codependency may also be characterized by denial, low self-esteem, excessive compliance, or control patterns. if we assume this fan was wasted, therfor not aware of his actions so much and not aware of the consequences his actions may have, why should he be held down for so long, not just held but ridden like a donkey.. i'm not gonna assume shit. Maynard Keenan explained the use of the words "stink" and "fist" as a reference to a friend of drummer Danny Carey who "isn't afraid of getting his hands dirty". He was in the back of the stage for that, the lateralus tour. the fan thought he could do whatever the fuck he wanted, sober or otherwise... premeditated. It's like a warning to a codependent or a soon-to-be-codependent. This is my first post, i didn't think to write about this when i signed in but i saw the link to Maynard and the fan on youtube and thought to share what i felt about it. He hasn't explicitly made any statements, but it's not hard to read between the lines on some of his lyrics in regards to childhood sexual abuse. as i was quoting some1 else. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I looked at the 12 traditional steps, but they were related a lot to religion and I got lost reading. What's the point of replying if your just twisting what I've said and making an unnecessary irrelevant argument.

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